tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post6191588818031906333..comments2023-11-02T03:08:07.417-07:00Comments on NephiCode: How Important Was the Narrow Pass or Passage? – Part II MesoamericaDelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08982095508142923740noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-87589071702491099642018-06-08T08:48:12.719-07:002018-06-08T08:48:12.719-07:00I think it is important to keep in mind that in 35...I think it is important to keep in mind that in 350 AD, when the treaty was arranged, the narrow neck of land was the dividing point between the Nephites (north) and the Lamanites (south). Mormon writes: "And the Lamanites did give unto us the land northward, yea, even to the narrow passage which led into the land southward. And we did give unto the Lamanites all the land southward" (Mormon 2:29). So the narrow passage was not only still there, but a significant feature, and during the 10 year peace that followed, the Lamanite king sent "an epistle" letting Mormon know they were coming down to battle (Mormon 3:4), and Mormon gathered his people to ONE location--"the land Desolation, to a city which was in the borders, by the narrow pass which led into the land southward" (Mormon 3:5), and there, in that single place, Mormon "place[d] our armies that we might stop the armies of the Lamanites, that they might not get possession of any of our lands; therefore we did fortify against them with all our force" (Mormon 3:6). Obviously, two things are apparent here: 1) Mormon placed ALL his armies in ONE location, at a single city in the Land of Desolation at the location of the narrow pass or passage; and 2) the Lamanite king had no other way to get into the Land Northward and behind the Nephites "into the lands of their possession" than the narrow pass.<br />Evidently, when the Andes came up, there were no other passes into the north that either existed or were known to anyone.Delhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08982095508142923740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-70795570750626630712018-06-06T10:37:35.943-07:002018-06-06T10:37:35.943-07:00Harry, that makes sense. The thing that is interes...Harry, that makes sense. The thing that is interesting is that none of the other models ever mention the other options that were available for troop movement. None of the other models also believe that the earth was altered significantly at the time of Christ. This is a very important detail of the South American model. <br />iterryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14836783863542965577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-80647585269722888522018-06-06T10:08:57.417-07:002018-06-06T10:08:57.417-07:00It was probably not as critical to the Lamanites a...It was probably not as critical to the Lamanites at the time of Mormon as it was to them at the time of captain Moroni but, the narrow pas would probably have been the ideal place for troop movement. With the rise of the Andes and disappearance of the Sea East the Lamanites would have had more options albeit difficult ones (mountains and steep canyons to cross). Just my thoughts looking at this map: http://nephicode.blogspot.com/2018/05/the-canari-tuncahuan-and-cojitambo-of.htmlHarryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16882671564967122693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-85608707579241424712018-06-06T09:49:33.701-07:002018-06-06T09:49:33.701-07:00Why was the narrow pass still a strategic pass ove...Why was the narrow pass still a strategic pass over 300 years after the Andes mountains rose and the Amazon basin came out of water? erichardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12279217537472159142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-35742288018188032022018-06-06T08:12:42.773-07:002018-06-06T08:12:42.773-07:00Excellent! This is one of the major problems with ...Excellent! This is one of the major problems with the Meso and North American models. They simply do not match the scriptural record. The narrow neck is a big problem for them. iterryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14836783863542965577noreply@blogger.com