tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post8079207273655606265..comments2023-11-02T03:08:07.417-07:00Comments on NephiCode: Describing the Lands of the Book of MormonDelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08982095508142923740noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-3417071815890732112016-10-10T21:46:11.489-07:002016-10-10T21:46:11.489-07:00Many years ago at an Education Week in Southern Ca...Many years ago at an Education Week in Southern California, I asked a few scientists and evolutionist professors from BYU down teaching some of the classes these types of questions, i.e., how can they teach such learning that is so opposed to the gospel. Their basic answer was that BYU had to teach what was generally accepted as educational criteria at the college level, but these three professors made it clear that it was not their personal belief. I believe today (my assumption) that you won't find three, if any at all among the BYU professors who feel that way today.Delhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08982095508142923740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-57682062721966925062016-10-09T13:46:47.246-07:002016-10-09T13:46:47.246-07:00David - you won't get any geology prof at BYU ...David - you won't get any geology prof at BYU to believe in Noah's flood. Nor any of their students. I know - I've talked to many. <br />iterryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14836783863542965577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-80813900611169391672016-10-09T08:58:28.331-07:002016-10-09T08:58:28.331-07:00One other quick point for those struggling with th...One other quick point for those struggling with the possibility that much of South America was once underwater. If you believe in the Bible, then you believe that the Flood occurred around 3,000 BC. In which case, all land was underwater- including South America. In which case, you already believe South America was underwater in "recent" times- not millions of years ago. South America rose up sometime after 3,000 BC. Now it's just a matter of figuring out when. Either it showed up as the flood waters receded or it came up sometime after that. If the latter, do we have any record of a catastrophic event (such as the colliding of tectonic plates) that could cause land to come up a little- and if so, when? 33 AD in the Book of Mormon. It's not like South America appeared from nowhere- it was just a little below the water level- and today, it is just a little above the water level- and much is still below like the Amazon River. Read Del's work on this topic and it won't sound like nonsense at all.DavidKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17746832520246273307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-54229976019487390812016-10-08T07:04:25.424-07:002016-10-08T07:04:25.424-07:00Unknown- I am a highly educated person (top of my ...Unknown- I am a highly educated person (top of my class bachelors and master's degrees and an avid reader) and I believe that much of South America "appeared out of the water in 3 hours". When I first heard of it on Del's blog a couple years ago, it did not seem possible because of what I had been taught over the years. I am also a skeptic and rarely believe anything someone tells me without researching it myself. However, after a significant amount of study, I not only felt Del's position was possible, but highly logical and probable. Even mainstream science agrees that most of the eastern portion of South America used to be underwater- so the only question is when did it arise. If you believe the Book of Mormon, they you believe Samuel's prophecy that a mountain of great height rose up at the Savior's death. I had to ask myself, where is that new mountain of great height if not the Andes. Even mainstream science agrees the Andes are the youngest mountain range- but again think it rose millions of years ago. Read Del's blog posts about the science behind the rising of the mountains and South America rising up in 33 AD. It all makes sense. Mainstream science says the earth is millions of years old and mountains rising takes millions of years. The Bible says otherwise. I believe the word of God- and I believe there is absolute true and logical science behind a young earth, a suddenly rising mountain range, and a suddenly rising South America. <br />I started at Del's first blog entry and read every blog post. I also read every comment to see what others were thinking of his positions and to consider any challenges to his thinking. I research many posts by reading other books and doing extensive separate research on the Internet. I later bought Del's books and have studied each of them carefully including the one about "scientific fallacies". His research is extremely impressive, well documented, and logical. <br /><br />If you put the work into thoroughly studying this topic, you likely will come to acknowledge that South America appearing "out of the water in 3 hours" is not nonsensical, but in fact almost certainly what happened in 33 AD when the Savior died on the cross and the earth shook violently in the promised land. DavidKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17746832520246273307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-89674386853315202682016-10-07T16:02:38.205-07:002016-10-07T16:02:38.205-07:00Geologist here (Unknown)- I believe the Lord raise...Geologist here (Unknown)- I believe the Lord raised South America out of the ocean in 3 hours. I guess you either believe in the power of God or you don't. <br />iterryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14836783863542965577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-19463082041191711612016-10-07T10:32:20.448-07:002016-10-07T10:32:20.448-07:00I won't tell them that the Brother of Jared ac...I won't tell them that the Brother of Jared actually moved a mountain, but the fact is he did. Nor will I tell them that the Lord organized the entire Earth in a matter of seven days (his time), but he did. Of course, mainstream science has made it a point to ignore God, something I do not do.<br />Delhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08982095508142923740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-32699755524352902512016-10-06T20:12:36.216-07:002016-10-06T20:12:36.216-07:00Don't tell any educated person that South Amer...Don't tell any educated person that South America appeared out of the water in 3 hours. Nonsensical at its extreme.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02811865385661864766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-29956473246610803082016-10-06T08:55:50.388-07:002016-10-06T08:55:50.388-07:00All valid points. Thank you. By the way, this mode...All valid points. Thank you. By the way, this model that i use is one taken from geologists, right down to the finest point. The basic and only difference is the time frame from tens of millions of years to the biblical time frame--which is why I wrote "Scientific Fallacies and Other Myths" as part of the four-book set on the subject of the Land of Promise.Delhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08982095508142923740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-72638039554789581072016-10-05T17:01:58.513-07:002016-10-05T17:01:58.513-07:00There is a great divide between main-stream scienc...There is a great divide between main-stream science and Creationists who believe in Noah's flood and in great catastrophes. You will never get BYU or any other scientific organization to even consider the fact that South America came up out of the ocean during a 3 hour earthquake. To them this idea is complete fantasy and is not even thinkable. Yet it is the truth. <br />iterryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14836783863542965577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-6563788857505935712016-10-05T16:10:41.234-07:002016-10-05T16:10:41.234-07:00If a theorist read this article they would take is...If a theorist read this article they would take issue with some of the points you make. However, even if we accept their other version of things as a possibility, the understanding of things you give is also a valid possibility. And I would agree your understanding is the most likely understanding. And since this model-- the Andes with the Amazon basin under water before the time of Christ-- is a hit with every point you make, even those that feel some points you made could be made differently, should recognized how significant this model is. And thus they should consider studying it and doing research in it. Instead, they give it NO credit and say it is not even a possibility. It seems clear to me their vested interest in their own models is far greater than any honest search for the truth.erichardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12279217537472159142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-72531794744334859762016-10-05T08:24:46.780-07:002016-10-05T08:24:46.780-07:00One thing I find interesting about the BOM lands i...One thing I find interesting about the BOM lands is it never mentions snow or ice particularly during the Jaredite times. After the flood the earth was plunged into a great ice age that lasted about a thousand years. The Lord brought the Jaredites to what is now Ecuador because of its location on the equator. Hence no mention of snow during the great battles that took place. This is just another reason why the Jaredites could never occupy North America after the Noah's flood. <br /> iterryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14836783863542965577noreply@blogger.com