tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post8801763193630631124..comments2023-11-02T03:08:07.417-07:00Comments on NephiCode: Why Mormon Gave So Many Geographical Details – Part IIDelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08982095508142923740noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-9169440734478968922017-09-22T20:12:56.577-07:002017-09-22T20:12:56.577-07:00In looking at the narrow neck again. If you start ...In looking at the narrow neck again. If you start at the beginning of the Gulf you know that it is relatively flat and low in elevation. At about 20 miles or so inland the Andes rise. The edge of the Andes look eroded to me and therefore I think that this is where the old shore line actually is located. Then if you measure over about 35-40 miles you find that the Andes drop off into the Amazon basin. I notice there the lenticular feature that I mentioned in the other post. So I think that is likely the place of the narrow neck. Look inland 20 miles at the rise and that is the old shore line. Can't be absolutely sure about this but looking at it from a geologic stand point it makes sense. I believe now I can actually see the narrow neck in the geographic features even though the resolution isn't all that great. iterryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14836783863542965577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-1028633160402779282017-09-22T11:36:09.974-07:002017-09-22T11:36:09.974-07:00I looked at the area where the Andes abuptly rise ...I looked at the area where the Andes abuptly rise and there is something odd. I would have expected more of a lenticular feature along a fault. The area looks quite eroded along the mountain front. I admit though that the picture isn't very good and I might be a fooled by what I'm looking at. I would love to have some good areal photos of the narrow neck. <br /><br />The Wasatch front would be a pretty good example. You see a nice lenticular feature at the mountain front. Anyway, it would be nice to pin down the width of the old narrow neck.Iterryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281119992916618849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-55324127014366632852017-09-20T11:23:37.480-07:002017-09-20T11:23:37.480-07:00I've often tried to understand better - where ...I've often tried to understand better - where exactly was the eastern boundary of the nephite lands prior to 33 AD. Most modern maps flatten everything and make it hard to see where the Andes rose. To me, even satellite maps are a little hard to distinguish. Today I happened across a "terrain view" by mapcarta that makes this easier to visualize. <br /><br />https://mapcarta.com/Cuzco<br /><br />If you open this link to mapcarta, make sure you are in "terrain view" (options are in the upper left corner) then zoom out far enough to see lake Titicaca south of Peru. We know from Del's prior posts that Lake Titicaca used to be ocean and the Andes rose and trapped some ocean water to the west which became lake Titicaca. On this terrain map, you can clearly see the line across where the Andes rose just east of lake Titicaca. Then, you can follow your map to the North and see the Andes eastern highest peak line all along the east side. You can follow this all the way to the top of ecuador (and beyond if desired). (The reason I have you start at cusco and zoom out until you can see lake Titicaca instead of just starting at lake Titicaca is so you are zoomed out about the right distance to see the mountains the best- a hyperlink does not save zoom settings). <br /><br />For anyone struggling with the eastern part of south america being underwater, zoom out further on this terrain map and it's clear that everything east of the andes is still barely above water- it again makes it easier to visualize.<br /><br />Another fun way to visualize the locations is the following map of incan roads. You just have to remember that some of the incan roads were built after 33 AD.<br /><br />http://historyofinformation.com/images/inca_road_system.jpgDavidKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17746832520246273307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-19851221183620254102017-09-20T11:05:03.030-07:002017-09-20T11:05:03.030-07:00If you measure from the water in bay of Guayaquil...If you measure from the water in bay of Guayaquil on the west to the beginning of the Andes Mountains on the east, you get about 26 miles. Del explained in a prior post: "The Bay of Guayaquil in southern Ecuador divides the western coast of Andean South America, today leaving about a 25 mile wide corridor, or neck, between Peru (south) and Ecuador (north), blocked on the east by the sheer height of the Andes Mountains, and on the left by the sea; Right: In Nephite times, the Andes had not yet risen and this area on the east was a sea, referred to as the Pebasian Sea (See the post “The Rising of South America—Part III,” dated September 7, 2012)" <br /><br />Here's a link to that post:<br /><br />http://nephicode.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-rising-of-south-americapart-iii.htmlDavidKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17746832520246273307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948352943362975805.post-57362716626204251332017-09-20T07:22:32.619-07:002017-09-20T07:22:32.619-07:00When I try to imagine and measure the narrow neck ...When I try to imagine and measure the narrow neck today I get a distance of about 75 miles. That has to be incorrect by your estimation. The land around the narrow neck was uplifted as well as draining the sea East. <br /><br />Good thoughts and something to ponder.Iterryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281119992916618849noreply@blogger.com