Peter Covino in his True Book of
Mormon Geography website, in discussing
the destruction mentioned in 3 Nephi and prophesied
elsewhere, he writes:
1.
Covino: “The rivers and seas were untouched. If there had been ash, they would
have turned to mud, and become polluted affecting the crops,
animals, and areas of habitation. There is no mention of any of this."
However, there is no mention of
“river” or “rivers” in all of 3 Nephi, and the term “seas” is not mentioned at
all, but “sea” is mentioned twice: “And the city of Moroni did sink into the
depths of the sea, and the inhabitants thereof were drowned” (3 Nephi 8:9); and
“And behold, that great city Moroni have I caused to be sunk in the depths of
the sea, and the inhabitants thereof to be drowned” (3 Nephi 9:4), neither of
which refer to the condition of the sea, only to its destructive power. Since
muddied water is correctable, or a changing condition that would naturally
resort back to its original condition, it would not be mentioned along with the
destruction of roads, cities, land forms, and solid rock formations, which
changes were permanent. Obviously, the recording of these disasters were major
calamities, not muddy water! Consequently, Covino’s comment and interpretation
are both unfounded, and offer no clarification whatever.
2.
Covino: “The darkness was described as a vapor and was different
from smoke or ash.”
However,
in Noah Webster’s 1828 American
Dictionary of the English Language, he defines vapor as “a visible fluid
floating in the atmosphere, such as smoke, fog, etc., are in common language
called vapors.” He also adds, vapor is “a substance resembling smoke, which
sometimes fill the atmosphere,” “to emit fumes” and “convert into vapor from
heat.” All of which describes the type of vapors emanating from the heat source
of a volcano. And, Nephi made it pretty clear when he
quoted the prophet Zenock of what would take place at the savior’s death: “The Lord God surely shall visit
all the house of Israel at that day, some with his voice, because of their
righteousness, unto their great joy and salvation, and others with the
thunderings and the lightnings of his power, by tempest, by fire, and by
smoke, and vapor of darkness, and by the opening of the
earth, and by mountains which shall be carried up. (1 Nephi 19: 11).
Left: Smoke billowing out of Mt. St.
Helen’s 1980 eruption; Right: Smoke, mingled with vapors of steam as the
eruption continued
In
1980, “Mount St. Helens
continued to spew an ash plume for more than 9 hours after the lateral blast,
reaching over 15 miles into the atmosphere. Volcanic deposits blanketed an area
mainly to the northeast— and the ash plume turned daylight to darkness over 120
miles away, and circled the earth in 15 days. It was enough ash to cover a
football field to a depth of 150 miles, and “the northern
slope of the mountain was buried in several feet of ash.” What was called ash
in the past is now called tephra, which has numerous categories, such as
pumice, lapilli, spindle, fusiform, blocks, bombs, scoria and cinder. All of
these can bury huge areas to a great depth for many miles around.
Obviously, such burying sounds much
like: “And behold, the city of Gilgal have I caused to be sunk, and the
inhabitants thereof to be buried up in the depths of the earth” 3 Nephi 9:6….”
and made hills and valleys in the places thereof; and the inhabitants thereof
have I buried up in the depths of the earth,” (3 Nephi 9:8)
Left: A car buried in ash—note the solid mass burying the car—in the
Mt. St. Helen’s eruption, a large portion of the mountain slid down and covered
100 square miles of forest, and a valley was buried by ash to 150’ deep for 14
miles; Right: Vaporous steam and smoke “that could be felt”
In addition, vapor is associated with volcanic
eruptions, and are the result of “rapidly released pressurized gases
within the volcano.” As steam and ash spew from
the crater, and “the plume of steam and ash rises miles into the sky for the
rest of the day.” The vapor of water, of
course, is referred to as “steam.” According to the Journal
of Geophysical Research, Vol 91, No B12, page 12,233, November 10, 1986:
“Volcanic vapors provide a steady flow of elements from the earth’s interior to
the atmosphere and exocycle, most notably during explosive volcanic eruptions,”
and scientists
have known for decades about volcanic vapors, “its opacity is attributable to water vapor,
mildly condensed and its reddish color, a volcanic dust, so subtle that it is
dragged in a suspended mixture of gases and vapor. In the end, the actions upon
the plants, prove without a doubt that chloric acid and sulfurous acid expelled
in conjunction with aqueous vapors were dragged with it.”
Obviously,
and contrary to Covino’s comments to the opposite, volcanic eruptions create
vapor, smoke and ash.
3.
Covino: “Some have interpreted the cause of the "three days of
darkness" as being from volcanoes, and thus make volcanoes a mandatory
part of Book of Mormon geography. That however is not what The Book says: Yea,
at the time that he shall yield up the ghost there shall be
thunderings and lightnings for the space of many hours, and the earth shall
shake and tremble; and the rocks which are upon the face of this earth, which
are both above the earth and beneath, which ye know at this time are solid, or
the more part of it is one solid mass, shall be broken up; And he said unto me
that while the thunder and the lightning lasted, and the tempest, that these
things should be, and that darkness should cover the face of the
whole earth for the space of three days” (Helaman 14:3,21,27). And
there could be no light, because of the darkness, neither candles, neither
torches; neither could there be fire kindled with their fine and exceedingly
dry wood, so that there could not be any light at all; And there was not
any light seen, neither fire, nor glimmer, neither the sun, nor the moon, nor the
stars, for so great were the mists of darkness which were upon the face of the
land.”
Obviously,
then, the darkness lasted three days! However, Covino’s point is that: “The
darkness would have lasted for longer than three days if the ash was so
thick you could not light a candle” (3
Nephi 8:21).
Of
course, that is an assumption on his part. The scripture merely says: “And
it came to pass that it did last for the space of three days that there was no
light seen” (3 Nephi 8:23). The point being that at the end of three days,
light was obviously seen, but there is no mention of the quality of the light,
whether the sun shown brightly, or was merely a dim orb in the sky as seen
through continually drifting ash. Perhaps it was now possible to light a candle,
and see someone close by, and navigate through the streets, etc. Covino is
making a huge assumption that it went from total darkness where no light was
possible to complete daylight of a regular day. Such an event is highly
unlikely, since natural disasters, in fact disasters of any kind, seldom make
such a change—improvement is almost always gradual.
Left: Note the gradual
lifting of the darkness—you can barely see cars on the street; Right: Getting
lighter, you can make out buildings
"And
it came to pass that there was thick darkness upon all the face
of the land, insomuch that the inhabitants thereof who had not fallen could
feel the vapor of darkness; (3 Nephi 8:20).”
During the eruption of Mt. Vesuvius in 79 A.D., Pliny the Elder wrote: "Broad sheets of flame were lighting up many parts of Vesuvius; their light and brightness were the more vivid for the darkness of the night...it was daylight now elsewhere in the world, but there the darkness was darker and thicker than any night."
During the eruption of Mt. Vesuvius in 79 A.D., Pliny the Elder wrote: "Broad sheets of flame were lighting up many parts of Vesuvius; their light and brightness were the more vivid for the darkness of the night...it was daylight now elsewhere in the world, but there the darkness was darker and thicker than any night."
Whether
or not the destruction in 3 Nephi was accompanied by volcanic eruptions is not
known, but to dismiss the idea out of hand seems unreasonable since the
descriptions in the scriptural record suggests the high possibility of such
volcanic eruptions. The only reason Covino wants to eliminate the idea of
volcanoes is because in his model of the Land of Promnise, there are no
volancoes.
(See the next post, “More Covino Comments Answered-Part IX,
for more of Covino’s so-called “errors,” which, in fact, are errors he makes while trying to defend his model)
Eyewitness accounts from the New Madrid earthquake of 1811.
ReplyDelete“We were visited by a violent shock of an earthquake, accompanied by a very awful noise resembling loud but distant thunder, but more hoarse and vibrating, which was followed in a few minutes by the complete saturation of the atmosphere, with sulphurious vapor, causing total darkness.” – Eliza Bryan
“A dense black cloud of vapor overshadowed the land.” – Godfrey LeSieur
“My maw tried to light the lamps; but the darkness was so dense they didn’t help at all.” – Eliza Bryan
More from Eliza Bryan:
ReplyDeleteOn the 16th of December, 1811, about two o'clock, a.m., we were visited by a violent shock of an earthquake, accompanied by a very awful noise resembling loud but distant thunder, but more hoarse and vibrating, which was followed in a few minutes by the complete saturation of the atmosphere, with sulphurious vapor, causing total darkness. The screams of the affrighted inhabitants running to and fro, not knowing where to go, or what to do—the cries of the fowls and beasts of every species—the cracking of trees falling, and the roaring of the Mississippi— the current of which was retrograde for a few minutes, owing as is supposed, to an irruption in its bed— formed a scene truly horrible.
Clearly, other things besides volcanoes and ash could have been at play.
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