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Continuing with the list shown
in the last four posts (and below) of the various scriptural record
descriptions of the Land of Promise and how any model must meet each and every
one of these descriptions listed by Mormon. To make sure there are no partial scriptures or references are
used here, as often found in such lists by other Theorists, we list the full scripture, the existence or lack of
existence in other models (under “elsewhere”), and the existence in the Andean
South America area.
A Chart showing 31 major points of the Land of Promise in the
scriptural record, all of which match Andean Peru and how so few other areas
have any or much in the way of these descriptions. Those marked in yellow were
covered in the previous posts
• Scripture: “And
it came to pass that they did not head them until they had come to the borders
of the land Desolation; and there they did head them, by the narrow pass which
led by the sea into the land northward, yea, by the sea, on the west and on the
east” (Alma 50:34); and “he also sent orders unto him that he should fortify the land
Bountiful, and secure the narrow pass which led into the land northward, lest
the Lamanites should obtain that point and should have power to harass them on
every side” (Alma 52:9); and “the
Lamanites did give unto us the land northward, yea, even to the narrow passage
which led into the land southward. And we did give unto the Lamanites all the
land southward” (Mormon 2:29); and also
“And it came to pass that I did cause my people that they should gather themselves
together at the land Desolation, to a city which was in the borders, by the
narrow pass which led into the land southward” (Alma 3:5).
To clarify:
• Narrow pass is by border of land
of Desolation
• Pass led into the Land Northward
• Pass led into the Land
Southward
• Pass between Bountiful and
Desolation
• Sea on the east and sea on the
west of the pass
• Jaredites built a city by the
narrow pass
• Pass was narrow enough to be
defended militarily
• If an enemy obtained entrance
into the narrow Pass, they would have the advantage of obtaining a foothold in the Land Northward and with such, the Nephites
in the Land Southward.
Thus, two things are obvious.
The Pass was the only way through the narrow neck, both being the only land
between the Land Southward and the Land Northward. To alter or change this
makes the importance of the narrow neck and the pass meaningless from a military
standpoint, to which Mormon refers.
Elsewhere: While other Theorists try to create their own narrow
necks and passes, each misses the point of the military importance—which means
the pass had to be the only way through the narrow neck and the narrow neck the
only land mass between the Land Southward and the Land Northward, otherwise, blocking the pass or cutting off access to the pass would not have kept an enemy from getting into the Land Northward through other means. Mormon, in
his descriptions makes this quite clear. This completely eliminates Mesoamerica
(125-144 miles wide), the Heartland (the Great Plains and areas denoted are
mostly flat and lack any strategic pass or neck), the Great Lakes, which leaves
several approaches through and around the area; and the same is true with Central America and Malay. Baja California is 50 miles
across at their narrow neck, and a mountainous area inland with two separate
coasts with egress, plus the various canyons and valleys. There is simply no
single area to defend.
The problem with all these other
areas is that you can point out a narrow pass, or a narrow area, but it is not
singular. In the many miles of width involved in each, there are numerous other
ways to get beyond or through their so-called narrow necks. (In past posts, we
have shown maps of each of these narrow necks and passes and how easy it would
be to circumvent any one area)
Andes: As pointed out in the last post, the second image map,
Andean South America has both a narrow neck (east of the Bay of Guayaquil,
between the bay and the steep Andes mountains now, and the Sea East (Pebesian
Sea) of antiquity.Through this narrow neck is a pass, called the Pass of Huayna Capac by the Inca, was identified by the Spanish conquistadores, written about in 1552 by the scholar soldier Pedro de Cieza de Leon and still identifiable as late as the 17th century.
• Scripture: “And it came to pass that Hagoth, he being an exceedingly curious man,
therefore he went forth and built him an exceedingly large ship, on the borders
of the land Bountiful, by the land Desolation, and launched it forth into the
west sea, by the narrow neck which led into the land northward. And behold,
there were many of the Nephites who did enter therein and did sail forth with
much provisions, and also many women and children; and they took their course
northward” (Alma 63:5-6), and “And in
the thirty and eighth year, this man built other ships. And the first ship did
also return, and many more people did enter into it; and they also took much
provisions, and set out again to the land northward” (Alma 63:7).
This first ship took its course
to “a land which was northward,” suggesting a land different from the land
northward, and the second ship went to the same (again) land northward. Since
they were never heard from more, two possibilities exist: 1) they went to a
land not connected to the Land of Promise and, thus, were not in the land of
then Nephites any longer, or 2) the ship sank and were lost to history.
However, since the first ship
returned, it is understood that at least the first shipload reached its destination
and, if they, too, were never heard from more, then it must be assumed that
both ships and possibly others went to lands disconnected from the Land of
Promise. This is seen especially in the final entry on this issue “And
it came to pass that one other ship also did sail forth; and whither she did go
we know not” (Alma 63:8). Thus, we should find a land to the north of the Land
of Promise that shows Nephite-type culture and building.
Elsewhere: There are several points here. It is impossible to sail
a ship from the Isthmus of Tehuantepec in Mesoamerica and have it take its
course northward--at least not for over 1000 miles; All the rivers in the Heartland that could be used to sail
northward and southward flowing waterways and almost impossible to sail into
both the winds and currents; the Great Lakes northward sail from their west sea
would be a very short trip and certainly not worthwhile to go by ship in such a
short journey—nor could a ship sail down the Niagara River, not northward into
the lakes against winds, etc. In addition, there are no great cities either in
the Heartland or Great Lakes to the north of their Land of Promise, and nothing north of there to show Nephite
development of groups that went north.
Top: A ship would have to travel 1000 miles before it could turn
northward; Bottom: The journey into the West Sea would be useless in
transporting emigrants only a few miles by ship
All Heartland rivers flow southward, most with very strong
currents, and the rivers were filled with shoals and rapids before being
cleared by the Corps of Engineers in the 17th and 18th centuries, making an “exceedingly large ship”
impossible to sail up current against the winds
Left:
If Hagoth’s ships went to a land which was northward and disconnected from the
Land of Promise, it fits South America since the Panama Isthmus was underwater
according to geologists, and ships leaving the Bay of Guayaquil could
immediately turn northward once into the sea and land anywhere along both
coasts of Central and Meso-America, where magnificent ruins match those of
Andean South America
Andes: As shown in the drawings above, Hagoth’s ships launched from
the South American Land of Promise narrow neck would immediately take their
course northward as Mormon describes and land along a wide front of northern
Central America and Mesoamerica, where ancient civilizations built magnificient
cities, palaces and temples that rival those of Andean South America.
(See the next post, “Comparing
Various Lands of Promise With the Scriptures – Part VI,” for more comparisons
based on the original chart shown at the top of this post and the scriptural
references cited)
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