Pre-flood? When the Spanish arrived in Cuzco in 1532, they were amazed at the newness of the boulders, walls, temple and fortress built on the hill overlooking the city. When asking the Inca who built it, the Inca said they didn’t know, but that it had been done very anciently. In addition, there are numerous mud-brick structures in Peru that had they been pre-flood, would have been washed away through disintegration from the flood waters, i.e., mud would have dissolved under water for that length of time.
If these ruins had been pre-Flood, meaning they were submerged beneath billions of tons of ocean water for nearly a year would
have dissolved the mud-formed bricks into a mud pile; however, note the fine
shape and detail that remains
Again, mud brick detail so exact,
would never have survived being inundated in ocean water for a year where it
sucks up the water and eventually collapses into a mud slick
It is often found that critics throw out what sounds to them like valid arguments without any research on their part to know that what they are saying is, indeed, a valid rationale. Often, as this one shows, they are not.
Very clear cut images in the mud brick
facing of the largest adobe city in the Americas. Note the fine, sharp images
that never would have survived being submerged in year-long flood water for so long a time—obviously, these are post-Flood buildings
As an example, Orson Hyde, referring to the Land of Promise said, “There shall no king be raised upon this land; and whosever seeketh to raise up a king on this land shall perish. This land means both North and South America, and also the families of islands that geographically and naturally belong and adhere to the same” (“Celebrating American Independence,” Salt Lake City, July 4, 1853, Journal of Discourses, Vol 7, 16, pp108,109). In addition, B.H. Roberts said, “these two American continents [North and South]. These continents are a promised land” (B.H. Roberts, History of the Church, p552fn)
A North and South America Promised Land was also taught by several modern Prophets and leaders like Wilford Woodruff, who said, “This land, North and South America, is the land of Zion; it is a choice land—the land that was given by promise from old father Jacob to his grandson and his descendants, the land on which the Zion of God should be established in the latter days.” Journal of Discourses, 12 January 1873, 15, p279); and by Ezra Taft Benson, who said, “This is our need today—to plant the standard of liberty among our people throughout the Americas… the struggle for liberty is a continuing one—it is with us in a very real sense today right here on this choice land of the Americas” (Conference Report, October 1962, pp14–15), and also “To the peoples who should inhabit this blessed land of the Americas, the Western Hemisphere, an ancient prophet uttered this significant promise and solemn warning” (Conference Report, October 1944, p128). And J. Reuben Clark said it was here on this hemisphere is found the Land of Promise and Zion would be built (Conference Report June 9, 1940).
However, this critic went on to say: “Joseph Smith never said that any other place than where he stood was sacred.” Yet, it was Joseph Smith who said, “…speaking of the Land of Zion, it consists of all N[orth] & S[outh] America but that any place where the Saints gather is Zion which every righteous man will build up for a place of safety for his children…The redemption of Zion is the redemption of all N[orth] & S[outh] America.” (Martha Jane Knowlton Coray, edited by Dean C. Jessee, “Joseph Smith’s July 19, 1840 Discourse,” Brigham Young University Studies 19:3, Spring 1979, p. 392).
And finally, Orson Pratt said, “The Lord brought a nation to this great western hemisphere, called the Jaredites…and among the promises given was the promise that this great western hemisphere should be given to them and to those that were worthy…and had all this western hemisphere promised to him and his righteous seed” (Journal of Discourses, August 1, 1880, p329).
Obviously, numerous other remarks have been stated, both in Conference, and regional meetings, especially in Latin America, where Church leaders have repeatedly said that the Land of Promise covers both North and South America. For Heartland, Great Lakes, and Eastern U.S. theorists to keep claiming otherwise is an affront to the brethren who have repeatedly said otherwise.
This critic also said, “The Book of Mormon happened in the Eastern United States. The narrow neck was near Niagara Falls. it fits perfectly. Quit looking in the wrong places.”
We have written so much about the eastern U.S. and how it does not match a single scriptural reference from the Book of Mormon. Saying something fits perfectly is one thing, showing it does by scriptural references is quite another. As an example, when Jacob said they were on an island in the midst of the sea over which they traveled, that is in no way a fit to the Great Lakes area, since sailing a vessel to the Great Lakes area in 600 B.C. was impossible as we have pointed out here numerous times. Neither the Mississippi River nor the Ohio River were navigatable at any time by deep ocean sailing vessels, nor was the St. Lawrence River, again, as we have pointed out, until the Corps of Engineers dredged these rivers, built bypasses to rapids and locks to move ships from one elevation to another.
To this critic and others, saying it does is hardly an argument in its favor.
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